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Ukraine support: how and why is Germany different? | Berlin Briefing Podcast
April 17, 2026
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Ukraine and Germany try to shift from crisis mode to strategic partnership 'We need to get away from our mindset that we are living in peace' former NATO Deputy Director for Defense and Security co-operation, Gerlinde Niehus tells Berlin Briefing co-hosts Michaela Küfner and Nina Haase on this episode. Europe may be in a “shadow war”, yet Germany and Ukraine want to declare a new normal.
Four years into Russia's war of aggression Friedrich Merz and Volodimir Zelenskyy just revived the format of a “strategic partnership”. It sees defense as a future market as much the current bare necessity. DW’s Kyiv Correspondent Nick Connolly gives that idea a reality check, reporting on the disillusionment of Ukrainians who just saw another night of deadly attacks on their capital. Even in the face of growing competition for arms deliveries over the Iran war, Zelenskyy and Merz declare the defense glass half full. Listen to our experts dissect why that is only partly true. And why the real problem isn't just Trump but Europe’s denial that it’s not just Ukraine who is under attack. #DWGermany Chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:24 Ukraine as partner 02:34 Zelenskyy’s Message 05:43 Middle East factor 09:01 A new wartime normal 09:48 Kyiv under fire 13:20 NATO without the US? 17:52 Europe’s wake‑up call 21:42 Germany’s Russia debate 25:37 Hybrid war reality 27:18 Ukraine’s view of Europe 30:27 Zelenskyy demands guarantees 32:24 The missed moment 35:32 replacing the US? 36:56 End For more news go to: http://www.dw.com/en/ Follow DW on social media: ►Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwnews ►TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dwnews ►Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deutschewellenews/ ►Twitter: https://twitter.com/dwnews Für Videos in deutscher Sprache besuchen Sie: https://www.youtube.com/dwdeutsch Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/user/deutschewelleenglish?sub_confirmation=1
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