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MGoPodcast 17.34: Involuntary Running Back Noises
April 20, 2026
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2026 Michigan Spring Game Recap April 18th, 2026 at 6:12 PM Alex.Drain April 18th, 2026 at 6:12 PM All eyes on Tommy Carr today [Patrick Barron] On a chilly and overcast day in Ann Arbor, the rain held off in the afternoon to allow Michigan Football to play its annual spring game in non-soggy conditions. More favorable weather could not make the football that was played an engrossing product, however, as Team Maize eked out a 7-6 victory over Team Blue in a game that was as exciting as it sounds.
It was a defensive slog with few big plays (if any) and the only touchdown wasn't scored until the waning seconds. Sleepy might be the best way to describe it. Despite talk about few starters playing during the week leading up, many well-known names competed today for the two teams. That includes Bryce Underwood, who played QB for both teams in the first quarter. His performance was less than ideal. Official stats are not available for this game but the BTN broadcast stated that Underwood was 3/9 for 22 yards. Underwood's first drive came while leading Team Maize, throwing a nice ball to freshman TE/H-Back Eli Owens on a slant for a first down, but then he missed freshman WR Salesi Moa down the field. In between those throws, Bryson Kuzdzal saw little running room and Underwood scrambeld and threw inaccurately to TE Hogan Hansen. There were no punts in this game, so Team Blue took over after the third down play. This drive was the longest that Underwood would lead, and it featured starting RB Jordan Marshall. Behind an offensive line of Evan Link, Ace Hamilton, Jake Guarnera, Brady Norton, and Marky Walbridge, Marshall had room to rush twice for a first down to get things going. Underwood then took a sack but hooked up with Marshall to make 3rd down manageable, which would be converted via Underwood's legs after pressure came from Dominic Nichols. Freshman WR Travis Johnson received an end-around after that, as the Michigan coaching staff tried to get all of its early enrollees involved. [Barron]The drive slowed down after that. Marshall's running room began to dissipate, though he apparently was able to pick up the first down (it was hard to tell with no marker on the screen and the thud football tackling rules used in the first quarter). The offensive staff went back to trickery in trying the Tecmo Bowl Play, but Underwood way overthrew TE Jalen Hoffman. Pressure continued to ramp up and Underwood was sacked on 2nd down by a combination of Nichols and Nate Marshall. Put in 3rd long, Underwood, tried to force the ball into WR JJ Buchanan in triple coverage. The ball should've been intercepted but Buchanan managed to rake it out for an incompletion, ending the drive for Team Blue. The Maize squad took over and Underwood's struggles continued. He threw low to Andrew Marsh, who couldn't haul it in, and had his second pass attempt batted down by EDGE Lugard Edokpayi coming around the right tackle. On 3rd down, Underwood again tried to run and was forced out of bounds short of the sticks, with the initial pressure coming from DL Enow Etta. It was a quick three-and-out and Team Blue took the ball back. Underwood handed the ball off on the first play and that concluded the first quarter and thus, the day for Underwood. His best throw was his first, the throw to Owens, but otherwise his accuracy was spotty at best and he continued to look rudimentary in his ability to read defenses. With the first quarter in the books, we moved to tackle football for everyone but the QBs. There was also a change at that position, with Tommy Carr taking over for both teams. The true freshman from Saline, MI, has been receiving positive buzz throughout spring and today was the best evidence yet that Carr is a legitimate prospect and not merely a feel-good token related to his last name. Carr's first throw was a little high but reeled in by transfer WR Jamie Ffrench but after that, Carr began to look comfortable, both throwing and running the football. He was sacked by NT Deyvid Palepale (who had a strong showing today but on the very next play, Carr expertly pulled the ball on a zone read and scampered for a first down. [AFTER THE JUMP: More recap]Mr. Hiter [Barron]A fellow, much more hyped, freshman was into the game on offense as well, with Savion Hiter rushing on this drive for Team Blue. Hiter absorbed a hard hit by S Jordan Young but then dragged LB Kaden Catchings for a first down on 3rd 1, showing the strength that Hiter already has. Carr hit WR Jacob Washington with a nice pass that had some zip on it to get Team Blue into scoring position and then another freshman RB, Jonathan Brown, got Team Blue inside the 10 yard line. Maize's defense came up with the stop, as Young made a run stuff and Carr made an incorrect bounce (should've cut it up) after correctly pulling the ball on another read. Left in 3rd G at the 5, a Carr swing pass to Hiter had no blocking in front of it and Team Blue kicked a short field goal. Stuart Blake connected from 23 yards away and it was 3-0. Next up was Carr's first stint as QB for Team Maize. His protection was iffy and the legs continued to feature, with three scrambles in the first four plays of the drive. The one non-QB run was a throw a little behind Hogan Hansen, but the TE made the catch for a first down. Another iffy throw came next but this one was snagged in marvelous, one-handed fashion by Salesi Moa. CB Jo'Ziah Edmond delivered a PBU on the next play but Carr bounced back with a stellar throw to Hansen on a quick out route. Time was ticking down in the second quarter as Maize approached the red zone, with Carr's 3rd down scramble giving the team a goal-to-go situation, but with only seven seconds left. On his one shot at the end zone, Carr delivered a catchable ball to classmate Jaylen Pile in the end zone, but the ball was dropped. Alas, the team decided to send transfer K Trey Butkowski from Pitt out to attempt a 29 yard FG that would have tied the game, but Butkowski pushed the kick wide. Not great. The score stood at 3-0 for Team Blue at halftime. [Barron]Blue got the ball to begin the second half, with Carr continuing to QB both sides. I was not able to track offensive lines while also following each play, but I did notice an increasing number of reserves joining the lines in this period, with Brooks Bahr and James Kavouklis playing snaps for Team Blue on this drive. Michigan's staff looked to get Ffrench back involved on this drive, feeding him two swing passes to get things going before Hiter received commendable blocking to convert a 3rd 1. Hiter followed this up with a chunk run on what was one of the longer runs of the game and the drive was in motion. Ffrench was fed another ball, this one a comebacks route and a poor tackling effort from CB Shamari Earls gifted him extra yards. Earls bounced back with a better tackle on Hiter, who bounced his run outside before Earls brought him down. Carr then took a coverage sack credited to LB Adam Bazzi, setting up a 3rd 6. Carr zipped in a really nice pass to TE Deakon Tonielli, but the receiver dropped it. The kicker rotation meant Stuart Blake was back outside for the ensuing field goal and he remained perfect, splitting the uprights to bump Team Blue's lead up to 6-0. Just as the first Blue drive of the second half began with multiple short passes, the first Maize drive did as well, these two being screens to Salesi Moa. Carr remained in rhythm by ripping a bullet to Kendrick Bell on a post route for a chunk gain. A few runs followed before Carr sent another screen in Moa's direction. He finally targeted Moa down the field with a pass and it looked like a good throw, but was PBU'd by either Taylor Tatum or Kainoa Winston. Faced with 3rd 8, Carr continued to show off his legs and broke a scramble for a first down to get Team Maize inside the 10 yard line. Tomas O'Meara was given the rock on the next play, which ended the 3rd quarter. [Barron]The 4th quarter started with Carr dumping it off to Eli Owens, before a quick tackle by Winston. That got Maize down to the 3 and they went back to O'Meara, who plowed ahead to the goal line. On 4th 1, O'Meara got one more carry, but ferocious penetration by DT Bobby Kanka, supported by LB Markel Dabney behind him, stoned O'Meara right at the line of scrimmage and delivered a great run stuff. A turnover on downs, and a signature moment for Kanka, who would show out in the 4th quarter of the spring game as Palepale had featured at the same position in the first half. Carr was no longer the full-time QB in the 4th quarter. He remained Maize's QB, perhaps because they needed a comeback, while second-year QB Chase Herbstreit took over for Team Blue, with famous father Kirk in the Big House stands. Herbstreit did not show off his arm on his first drive, scrambling on one drop-back and otherwise handing the ball off to Jonathan Brown. The RB ripped off one long run that Herbstreit tried to help block for but it was called back on penalty. The drive ended rather prematurely with Bazzi stopping Brown on a 3rd 2 situation and the focus was back on Team Maize. The first play of the next drive was maybe the best throw of the day for Carr, who dropped a dime deep near the goal line to WR Jamar Browder. Unfortunately, Browder did not locate the ball correctly and it bonked him in the head before falling incomplete. Jaylen Pile, guilty of dropping a pass earlier in the game himself, got his first catch on a screen but didn't do much with it. Carr's legs were necessary to keep the drive going as protection started to break down, breaking the pocket and dumping it off to Browder underneath to set up a 4th 2, which he converted by scrambling. [Barron]The drive came to a screeching halt shortly thereafter as Team Maize began to approach the end zone, runs by O'Meara being bottled up. The most notable play was a Bobby Kanka sack on 3rd down, which set up a 4th 10. With no one open, Carr had no choice but to heave it to the end zone and it was knocked away. The turnover on downs came with 2.5 minutes remaining but with a timeout in the pocket and the 2 minute warning, Maize could get the ball back with a quick stop. They got that, taking advantage of field position to force a three-and-out deep in Blue territory. Herbstreit pulled on a zone read but got nothing out of it and 3rd down ended in a sack when DL Travis Moten blew up the Tecmo Bowl Play near the goal line. The nonexistent punt gave Maize favorable field position around midfield to try and win the game, which they would ultimately do. The worst decision Carr made in the game came on this drive, a bad read that ended with a ball in double coverage, though Browder managed to yank the ball away from the defender and come down with the catch. Carr then looked shorter, firing three slants, crossers, out routes to move the ball firmly into the red zone. Maize then handed it off to run the ball down inside the five, while the clock continued to tick away on Team Blue. This was the fourth trip to the red zone for Tam Maize in the game, having been empty handed in all of the prior trips. The run had gotten Maize down to the 3 and they were going to keep it on the ground. The 2nd down carry took Maize to the 1 and on 3rd down, they finally found paydirt. O'Meara surged ahead and broke the goal line, the first and only touchdown of the game for either team and with under 30 seconds left, Maize had tied the game. The all-important extra point followed, which was fitted through the goalposts to give Maize a 7-6 lead. [Barron]It wasn't totally over, as Blue theoretically had time to drive for either a long field goal or a try at the end zone. Herbstreit threw the ball away on first down but a pre-snap defensive penalty nullified the play and reset the clock to 17 seconds. With that extra time, Herbstreit delivered a dart to Deakon Tonielli, getting Team Blue up to the +40. The clock stopped to reset the chains but Blue opted not to spike it, with Herbstreit instead holding it and then throwing it away. That wound the time down so that the next play would almost certainly be the last play of the game. The coaching staff opted against a very long field goal attempt, so they tasked Herbstreit with getting it to the end zone. The young QB rolled to his right and managed to heave the ball into the end zone, but it was batted down by Maize defenders. Ballgame. Your final score was 7-6 in favor of Team Maize. I have little else to say about this game that was not covered in the narrative. It's difficult to keep track of line play or all the rotations live, so that is best left to rewatch. The stand-outs for me were, in some order, Tommy Carr, Bobby Kanka, Deyvid Palepale, and Salesi Moa. The RBs were all good, largely as advertised, and most other skill players had a moment or two where they flashed. The biggest storyline will likely be the play of Bryce Underwood, although Kyle Whittingham was quick to emphasize that Underwood is the no questions asked QB1 of his football team in the postgame interview. Beyond that, there's not much to take away from this. It's an exhibition and just one glimpse into all of the player development that's been going on in spring ball. The next time that we will see the team on the field, during the opener against Western Michigan on September 5, will be after far more practices and many more hours in the film and weight rooms. For now, the Wolverines remain a young team of talented players that is still adjusting to its new coaching staff and growing along the way. That's all I have at this time. Log in or register to post comments Michighen April 18th, 2026 at 6:29 PM ^ Is there a Tommy Carr fan club yet? I want to join. He looks like a QB. Joined: 09/04/2011 MGoPoints: 2953 In reply to Is there a Tommy Carr fan by Michighen Champeen April 18th, 2026 at 8:50 PM ^ Register Me. Looks like a future BALLER. Let him EAT! He's a dude! Got that DOG in him! (Did I miss any?) Joined: 04/07/2011 MGoPoints: 17224 In reply to Register Me. Looks like a by Champeen 4th phase April 18th, 2026 at 8:54 PM ^ He looks like JJ out there Joined: 12/12/2017 MGoPoints: 23206 In reply to He looks like JJ out there by 4th phase RapidTransit April 19th, 2026 at 12:09 PM ^ I agree he looked good. I don’t think his arm strength is anywhere close to JJ’s yet. Backup QB’s are always our favorites. Joined: 07/15/2011 MGoPoints: 211 In reply to Register Me. Looks like a by Champeen M-Dog April 18th, 2026 at 10:51 PM ^ He looks like pre-head case Tate Forcier. Joined: 07/06/2008 MGoPoints: 302775 In reply to Register Me. Looks like a by Champeen The Fugitive April 19th, 2026 at 8:44 AM ^ Coaches grandson Joined: 01/26/2016 MGoPoints: 85396 In reply to Is there a Tommy Carr fan by Michighen BrownJuggernaut April 19th, 2026 at 8:13 AM ^ Definitely liked what I saw from Tommy - could use some time in the weight room so he's not killed by college defenses but showed a lot of poise. Joined: 10/02/2010 MGoPoints: 10921 In reply to Definitely liked what I saw by BrownJuggernaut willirwin1778 April 19th, 2026 at 8:55 AM ^ Carr's initial escapeability speed looks to be enough of a burst to extend plays and be evasive when necessary. Joined: 03/09/2013 MGoPoints: 8877 In reply to Carr's initial by willirwin1778 BrownJuggernaut April 19th, 2026 at 10:05 AM ^ For sure but I am not sure there is enough escapability when combined with a defense trying to make him feel their presence. Joined: 10/02/2010 MGoPoints: 10921 In reply to For sure but I am not sure by BrownJuggernaut willirwin1778 April 19th, 2026 at 10:29 AM ^ Let’s file under “something to continue to evaluate.” Joined: 03/09/2013 MGoPoints: 8877 In reply to Is there a Tommy Carr fan by Michighen ch1townma1ze April 19th, 2026 at 10:18 AM ^ Clearly yet another example from the local power house Saline Hornet program. :) Joined: 11/16/2013 MGoPoints: 338 MechE April 18th, 2026 at 6:47 PM ^ Hot take: Underwood gets benched in favor of Carr at some point this season Joined: 06/30/2008 MGoPoints: 596 In reply to Hot take: Underwood gets by MechE The Truth Hurts April 18th, 2026 at 8:30 PM ^ Hot take Underwood announces portal entry sometimes during season. Joined: 03/30/2011 MGoPoints: 5989 In reply to Hot take Underwood by The Truth Hurts blueheron April 18th, 2026 at 8:36 PM ^ Hot take: UM is going to be patient with this guy.Nope, recruiting rankings are not destiny. But, he was not an ordinary recruit. (And, I don't think he's destined to be an ordinary player.) Joined: 03/26/2009 MGoPoints: 49065 In reply to Hot take: UM is going to be by blueheron Champeen April 18th, 2026 at 9:55 PM ^ If he runs more in a more qb run friendly system he should be able to match that ranking yet. If the system allows him to play like Vince Young and not Warren Moon he is gold. Let's see how good these coaches are. Joined: 04/07/2011 MGoPoints: 17224 In reply to If he runs more in a more qb by Champeen 93Grad April 19th, 2026 at 10:21 AM ^ He’s not even close to the running threat Vince Young was. Joined: 07/26/2011 MGoPoints: 21641 In reply to He’s not even close to the by 93Grad Carpetbagger April 19th, 2026 at 11:04 AM ^ Not the throwing threat yet either. Sadly. Joined: 12/31/2010 MGoPoints: 11309 In reply to He’s not even close to the by 93Grad DanDiego1999 April 19th, 2026 at 8:58 PM ^ I dunno ‘bout that Current learning curve aside, I’d say while he’s definitely not at Young’s (or Denard’s) level, he actually is pretty close (i.e. a notch below) Joined: 09/20/2013 MGoPoints: 2951 In reply to Hot take: UM is going to be by blueheron LabattBlue April 19th, 2026 at 7:48 AM ^ 4 true freshman started all games in 2025. So let's compare results.54: Malik Washington - Maryland 2, 963 yrds, 17 TD / 9 INT65 : Jason Sagapolutele - Cal 3,454 yrd, 18 TD / 9 INT62 : Bear Behmeier - BYU 3,033 yrd, 15 TD, 7 INT 1 : Bryce Underwood : UM 2,478 yrd, 11 TD, 9 INTThe 3 other QBs have a combined NIL less than half of Underwood's lottery of 1 million per TDRemains to be seen. Joined: 03/28/2015 MGoPoints: 925 In reply to 4 true freshman started all by LabattBlue bluebyyou April 19th, 2026 at 8:25 AM ^ Time will tell of course but I do think there is way more logic in getting someone from the portal with years of experience. OSU and Indiana did that and got NC's out of their investment. I would also ask the question as to just how much tutoring the other QB's received during their first year. We know Bryce had not dedicated QB coach. Another dumb decision by Moore. Joined: 09/07/2009 MGoPoints: 23816 In reply to Time will tell of course but by bluebyyou BoFlex April 19th, 2026 at 1:12 PM ^ We know Bryce had not dedicated QB coach. Another dumb decision by Moore.People keep repeating this line but I don’t see a tangible difference the QB coaching set-up this season.Under Moore, Michigan had an OC in Chip Lindsay who had a dual-role as the main QB coach. He was supported with an offensive QB analyst in Josh Sinagoga.Under Whittingham, Michigan has an OC in Jason Beck who has a dual-role as the main QB coach. He is supported with an offensive QB analyst in Koy Detmer Jr. Joined: 05/30/2011 MGoPoints: 6945 In reply to 4 true freshman started all by LabattBlue Buy Bushwood April 19th, 2026 at 8:53 AM ^ While interesting (thanks), those guys didn't play for Sherrone Moore. I think it's going to be a very different offense. Not at all usual that the D would dominate hybridized OL's and an 18 year old QB learning a new offense. Joined: 10/24/2020 MGoPoints: 43052 In reply to Hot take: Underwood gets by MechE CityOfKlompton April 18th, 2026 at 9:07 PM ^ Good god it's going to be a long off-season and a long season with fans calling for Underwood to be benched in favor of Carr every time he has an incompletion.Let's pump the damn brakes, folks. It was a spring game. Joined: 10/14/2018 MGoPoints: 13193 In reply to Good god it's going to be a by CityOfKlompton BlueTimesTwo April 19th, 2026 at 9:41 AM ^ His ceiling is still sky-high, but I do wish that we saw some development since the fall. I know that Sherrone was the definition of coaching malpractice, and that set Bryce back in confidence and growth, but it would be nice to see some progress in Bryce's footwork and some air under his deep throws. Hopefully playing behind a complete line rather than a patchwork one will help, and having the running game able to break tackles (rather than touch tackles in spring) will take pressure off of the passing game. It was still nice to see Carr look like a viable option if needed. Joined: 06/30/2008 MGoPoints: 19068 In reply to Hot take: Underwood gets by MechE njvictor April 18th, 2026 at 10:17 PM ^ Cold take: People are overreacting to Bryce’s performance with a piecemeal OL and against a defense that clearly has some dudes Joined: 07/20/2017 MGoPoints: 88499 In reply to Cold take: People are by njvictor Bob_Timberlake April 18th, 2026 at 10:55 PM ^ He handles pressure like Jared Goff but doesn't make too many good throws when he's not pressured. Still think he looked good in high school because he had superior talent around him and played inferior dudes. Joined: 03/29/2015 MGoPoints: 8678 In reply to Cold take: People are by njvictor willirwin1778 April 19th, 2026 at 9:13 AM ^ I am willing to give him time and I trust the coaches. Dante Moore, for example, clearly went through a significant development period, whereby he looked like an unplayable 5 star, rode the bench and transferred and is now in Heisman talk. However, accuracy is accuracy, that is one obvious thing every single armchair fan can see and quickly evaluate. And at the end of the day, if it isn't accurate, people are going to get frustrated really quickly watching bad incompletions.My biggest concern is we have set up a scenario by which we are starting a young 18-year-old 5-star development prospect with a huge upside, who in reality, we really want to see be a QB when they are a grown 20. Joined: 03/09/2013 MGoPoints: 8877 In reply to Hot take: Underwood gets by MechE dcmaizeandblue April 18th, 2026 at 11:56 PM ^ It’s a stupid take that’s for sure. Joined: 04/01/2010 MGoPoints: 9102 S.G. Rice April 18th, 2026 at 7:04 PM ^ The first quarter was just silly. Pointless. And we were deprived of punting! Joined: 07/18/2008 MGoPoints: 30316 In reply to The first quarter was just by S.G. Rice Eng1980 April 18th, 2026 at 8:00 PM ^ I am desperately trying to imagine Iowa having a spring game without punting. Joined: 04/28/2016 MGoPoints: 16672 In reply to I am desperately trying to by Eng1980 Gooseggs April 18th, 2026 at 8:48 PM ^ The Iowa spring game is strictly a punting exhibition with the rest of the players watching in awe Joined: 07/16/2016 MGoPoints: 15043 In reply to I am desperately trying to by Eng1980 three_honks April 18th, 2026 at 10:06 PM ^ I can imagine the Hawkeye fans wielding pitchforks afterward. Joined: 11/13/2023 MGoPoints: 19633 In reply to I am desperately trying to by Eng1980 BursleyHall82 April 19th, 2026 at 12:11 AM ^ But if Cade McNamara plays, whichever team won the spring game would have to forfeit. Joined: 07/14/2013 MGoPoints: 42389 In reply to I am desperately trying to by Eng1980 DanDiego1999 April 19th, 2026 at 9:01 PM ^ Isn’t their spring game nothing but punting and punt coverage, though? Joined: 09/20/2013 MGoPoints: 2951 In reply to The first quarter was just by S.G. Rice NeverPunt April 18th, 2026 at 8:14 PM ^ I thought it was glorious Joined: 03/26/2019 MGoPoints: 51044 In reply to The first quarter was just by S.G. Rice CityOfKlompton April 18th, 2026 at 9:08 PM ^ Found the undercover Iowa fan. Joined: 10/14/2018 MGoPoints: 13193 In reply to The first quarter was just by S.G. Rice AWAS April 19th, 2026 at 10:30 AM ^ TBH I struggle to see much point in the whole event Joined: 01/02/2018 MGoPoints: 18449 FauldsSzn April 18th, 2026 at 7:05 PM ^ I have concerns with Underwood. Joined: 08/22/2025 MGoPoints: 2745 In reply to I have concerns with by FauldsSzn MJG April 18th, 2026 at 10:03 PM ^ I don’t Joined: 08/29/2011 MGoPoints: 4321 In reply to I don’t by MJG schreibee April 19th, 2026 at 5:20 PM ^ Let's take an unscientific poll of Mgoblog users and compare upvotes for Faulds and MJG.OUCH!!! Joined: 11/02/2009 MGoPoints: 24262 KBLOW April 18th, 2026 at 7:06 PM ^ IMO, Underwood looked bad. Like, no improvement over last year, type of bad. Here's hoping he makes big strides in the next 5 months. Joined: 06/30/2008 MGoPoints: 38835 In reply to IMO, Underwood looked bad by KBLOW NeverPunt April 18th, 2026 at 8:16 PM ^ Respectfully, Underwood looked decent last year and there’s almost no chance a kid with his talent and work ethic doesn’t succeed. He may not be generational at Michigan or go 1 in the draft but he’ll be fine and he could turn out to be excellent. New staff, new system, and meaningless scrimmage.Don’t bet against the kid, the odds are in his favor. Joined: 03/26/2019 MGoPoints: 51044 In reply to Respectfully, Underwood by NeverPunt The Truth Hurts April 18th, 2026 at 8:33 PM ^ I'm sure, if he looked bad in practice the coaches wouldn't had let him practice today Joined: 03/30/2011 MGoPoints: 5989 In reply to Respectfully, Underwood by NeverPunt Gooseggs April 18th, 2026 at 10:19 PM ^ Hoping he’s getting built back up after correcting some bad habits he developed Joined: 07/16/2016 MGoPoints: 15043 In reply to IMO, Underwood looked bad by KBLOW PopeLando April 18th, 2026 at 9:26 PM ^ Sometimes, sucking at something is the first step towards being pretty good at something.Underwood, infamously, didn’t get much in the way of coaching last year. So he’s a year into college, and working with a new staff that has to undo both his high school bad habits and his “Sherrone Moore hates QB involvement in the game plans so now he’s gotta figure out how to complete a pass without dying because Sherrone Moore hates teaching our OL pass protection but also he’s been told not to run the ball” bad habits.Offseason Optimism is the name of the game for me, but 1) I’d much rather the defense look good this early, and 2) there’s a lot of players who are receiving coaching for the first time in an offense that actually cares about outscoring the opponents. Joined: 08/01/2015 MGoPoints: 117085 In reply to Sometimes, sucking at by PopeLando DonAZ April 18th, 2026 at 10:52 PM ^ I was thinking about something along these lines. He's under the coaching of Koy Detmer now, and it's possible Underwood is in that phase where he's unlearning the bad stuff, but has not yet mastered the good stuff. He may also be over-thinking things a bit, as the new habits have not yet made their way out to muscle memory.The thought that ran through my mind was of a pro golfer who goes to a coach to retool his swing so he can go to another level. They almost always get worse before they get better. It's only natural. Joined: 12/05/2011 MGoPoints: 24988 In reply to I was thinking about by DonAZ BlueTimesTwo April 19th, 2026 at 9:54 AM ^ I had a similar thought. Last year seemed completely wasted from a development perspective, and changing techniques and habits often makes athletes look worse before they look better. I like the makeup of the coaching staff, so I am hopeful that we see improvement by the fall. Joined: 06/30/2008 MGoPoints: 19068 In reply to IMO, Underwood looked bad by KBLOW champswest April 18th, 2026 at 10:35 PM ^ His necklace looked good Joined: 10/04/2009 MGoPoints: 27017 In reply to IMO, Underwood looked bad by KBLOW M-Dog April 18th, 2026 at 11:08 PM ^ KW is a no nonsense no BS kind of guy. He said clearly that Underwood was QB1, no ifs, ands, or buts. He sees him every day and knows what he can do. Joined: 07/06/2008 MGoPoints: 302775 4th phase April 18th, 2026 at 8:53 PM ^ After the game, they showed highlights of the OSU spring game, I didn’t really pay attention except they said the final score was 42-35 or something. Do they do something different to have more explosive spring games? Cause it seems like for the last 10 years or so Michigan offenses have struggled in the spring games. Or are we ready to declare that OSU defense is just bad? 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